Answers To Bill Veale's Pentagon Questions

Hi Bill Veale and April Gallop:

Mr. Veale >> TC; ‘I have some questions. Though I would prefer my ignorance and thought processes to stay between the two of us, if you want to publish what I write, it is up to you.

I serve our Creator, the 911Truth and the unbiased third-party reader in that order. The day that I ask you to conceal things written by me on these 911Truth topics is the day you should begin to suspect my motives like the air of suspicion is right now upon you. Before we dive into your questions, I wanted to thank you for pointing out a weakness in my 9/11 Pentagon argument. I was developing my Pentagon ‘two attack’ thesis years ago, and determining the missile accessory components, when I came upon the original document that you see right here (link = search ‘L-pill’). Under L-Pill you see two kinds of Lance Missile Warhead in a list that includes many different Chemical Bomblets, a variety of Cluster Bombs including the Ferrimar Cluster Bomb System, and a myriad of missile/bomb accessories. Since I was not prepared to stand upon any specific claim and name the DoD missile accessory component that injured your client, I utilized the most generic device from the Bomb Accessory List and without realizing that this is a list of military accessories that only includes missile accessories; which was an oversight on my part.

I am updating my Pentagon Missile/Jet Two Attack Thesis to include a Raytheon AGM class (Air to Ground Missile) like the Raytheon AGM-154A Joint Standoff Weapon at link #2. The DoD Missile carried ‘submunitions’ in the form of ‘bomblets,’ as in “Each bomblet is designed for multi-target in one payload.” The submunitions are demonstrated in the picture of the second missile at link #3. Therefore, I am the one who should be thanking you for your assistance in removing my ignorance to help strengthen my argument. I will describe the specifics in answering your questions below:

Mr. Veale >> Who or what says April was where you say she was?

I asked April very directly and specifically about her location during the initial Pentagon attack/explosion to receive everything but a coherent reply. When April was evasive about providing a simple answer to my query, then I began looking on the internet among her known friends and acquaintances to see if anybody else had better luck in this area. While the Citizens Investigation Team and their cohorts all draw the wrong conclusions from the mountain of Pentagon eyewitness testimony, they do represent a good source of information on the evidence itself. SPreston started this Loose Change Thread (Link #4) who I have known for some time as a CIT asset (pic) running diversion for their silly Pentagon interpretations. This thread was started on December 17, 2008 in conjunction with your RawStory.com article (#5) release on December 18, 2008 of last year. Preston says that “April Gallop and son were sitting in her office only 40 feet away from the place of impact,” which gives us a clue into April’s location at the moment of impact. I did manage to ascertain the fact that April was sitting in the E-ring section, which means she was sitting near the outer E-ring wall near the Heliport location (pic). Preston is quoting a Steven C. Webster source to then offer up this picture (#6) with April’s precise location included near the outer E-ring wall, which April verifies at the 2007 Justice And Freedom Conference (#7 @ 15:20).

Column Line (CL) 14 is the center of impact and the fifty-feet radius line takes us to CL-9 (columns are on 10-feet centers) to which we add another 35-45 feet; which is another 3-4 columns heading north. The evidence says that April and her son were positioned somewhere between CL-5 and CL-6 at the moment of impact. I purposely selected the CL-6 location, because the attack came from the south at a 45-degree angle (pic), which means we must take the port-side wing one foot north for every one foot traveled to the east. This means that the CL-numbers affected by the supposed impact of AA77 port-side wing traveling 530 miles per hour are getting ‘lower’ with every ten feet traveled inside the outer E-ring wall. The people who know April’s E-ring designation number are connected to the Pentagon Renovation Team (link), which Preston calls, “an official distance from the place of impact” in his post. April gives her location as “1 Echo 517” Administrative Office (OAA) in her CIT interview (#8 @ 4:50/17:31).

I admit to being shocked that April was not forthcoming with this critical information during our nice telephone exchange, because I would have expected after all these years that somebody would have done the math to determine which column line she was near during the initial 9:31 AM attack. Bill Veale and April Gallop should both realize that the substance of our deliberations are posted on my blog ‘and’ at third-party locations in the form of thesis papers to give everyone the opportunity to offer up advocating or opposing views one way or the other. Simultaneous postings were made to the LetsRoll Board (#9 + #10) and the USMessageBoard (#11) to give other 911Truthers every opportunity to criticize my interpretations of the evidence, which is the best way to find out if a particular explanation has merit or not (1Cor. 11:19). Thus far nobody from either Board (I have threads started in many other locations) has challenged my interpretations of the evidence, where Bill Veale is welcome to log on and offer up views for something else. Someone might wonder why Bill Veale is asking this question rather than simply note a potential error in my work, which seems the logical response if we are indeed working on the same 911Truth team. Where does Bill Veale believe April’s location to be at the 9:31 AM moment of impact other than 1 (first floor) Echo (E-ring section) 517 (500 section)? :0)

Mr. Veale >> According to your understanding, which explosion(s) did Wallace not experience?

Alan Wallace experienced ‘both’ explosions at 9:31:39 AM (original missile strike) ‘and’ the 9:36:27 AM explosion (pic) while under his van north of the Heliport location. Alan Wallace and Mark Skipper turned their backs to the CL-14 location to begin running ‘north’ upon seeing the painted-up DoD Jet, which is the reason they did not actually see any impact at all. Alan Wallace says:

Alan Wallace Story

Alan Wallace >> So many people think Mark and I watched the plane hit the building. We did NOT. We only saw it approach for an instant. I would estimate not longer than half a second. Others didn’t understand why we didn’t hear it sooner. We did not hear it until right after we saw it. I estimate that the plane hit the building only 1½-2 seconds after we saw it. What I am saying is, immediately after we saw it, we heard the noise; the engines, I’m sure. I described that as a terrible noise – loud, scary, and horrible.

At the time we saw the plane I said, “LET’S GO!” and Mark and I ran away from the area. I turned and ran to my right, going north. (I do not remember which way Mark went, since I did not see him until I crawled out from under the Ford Van.)

Alan Wallace and Mark Skipper saw the painted-up DoD Jet on final approach towards the Wedge One CL-11/CL-15 impact destination, but they turned their backs to start running north ‘before’ the actual missile strike impact. They failed to see that the Raytheon missile struck the Pentagon and that the DoD Jet flew over the E-ring roof to begin making the 4-minute and 48-second circle to the north. These on-station Pentagon firemen knew the WTC attacks had already taken place and they believed the Pentagon was the next target, so the ‘fight or flight’ defense mechanisms were in full force and these men chose the ‘flight’ avenue to run and hide under their vehicles NOT at 9:38 AM, like the Official Cover Story, but at 9:31:39 AM during the original missile strike.

Mr. Veale >> How do you reconcile his construction of events with your scenario?

The testimony of Alan Wallace supports my ‘two attack’ explanation to a tee. Alan ran twenty feet to the north before the moment of impact, even though to this day he fails to realize that the DoD Jet flew over the E-ring roof and this 9:31:39 AM explosion came from the missile strike. Alan “dove to the blacktop” to realize that he was only 30 feet away from the left rear tire of his van, so he crawled underneath his vehicle very much in a state of ‘shock.’ Both men suffered temporary hearing loss during the initial missile strike that came from the southwest and deflected debris and fire from the original blast north in their direction. Alan says,

Alan Wallace >> “At this time, I noticed a lot of heat and decided to crawl to the end of the van. Very soon the heat was unbearable and I decided to get out from under the van and get farther away from the impact site. It was then that I saw Mark Skipper to my left – out in the field 50-75 feet away. He was standing, looking back to the impact site and seemed to be swinging his arms. I immediately ran over to him to ask if he was OK. He said he was, and then said, “I’m glad you saw the airplane!” I said, “Get your gear on – we have a lot of work to do; I’m going to the fire truck.”

The 4 minutes and 48 seconds have now passed and Alan is chased from under his van by the ‘fire’ from the 9:36:27 AM DoD Jet attack, but he is temporarily deaf and did not realize this was indeed a ‘second’ attack. We know this ‘fire’ was definitely from the second attack, because Terry Cohen ran to the original CL-14 impact hole in mere seconds to see “Just Smoke” (#13). In other words, this first 4 minutes and 48 seconds saw only the ‘inside-the-building fires’ (Barbara Honegger's famous paper) also witnessed by Lloyd England , until his ‘BIG BOOM’ (#15) encounter that sees the famous taxi driver almost killed by the same light pole in just under five minutes. Alan Wallace’s testimony ‘must’ be reconciled with the testimony of every other Pentagon witness that was present during the original 9:31:39 AM missile strike.

Mr. Veale >> Who’s analysis of the damage patterns that give you the location of the L-Pills are you relying on?

The analysis of the damage from the ‘three’ Pentagon attacks (diagram including Demo charges) is my own. The data was taken from the damage schematic (#16) from this website (#17). Right here you have seventeen witness accounts that tell the ‘two attack’ story when all the testimony is viewed in the proper context. Tell me if this sounds familiar:

Lisa Burgess >> “Stars and Stripes reporter Lisa Burgess was walking on the Pentagon's innermost corridor, across the courtyard, when the incident happened. "I heard two loud booms - one large, one smaller, and the shock wave threw me against the wall," she said.”

Lisa Burgess heard ‘two loud booms’ like April Gallop from your Rawstory article (#5), which for some strange reason you now see some reason to deny.

Mr. Veale >> “The claim that April heard two explosions is not true. It is a mistake in our Complaint that we will have to correct. Is that what you are relying upon for that assertion?”

Changing April’s story now is a great idea, if your motive is to discredit her Pentagon testimony forever, which we all know that the Cheney defense team will harp upon to the very end; if indeed the CenterFor911Justice ever stops running in place and actually begins a full frontal assault on the many John Doe’s working every day to destroy this once-great nation. This is perhaps the most surprising development in your legal strategy that makes the least amount of sense. Searching “April Gallop” and “two explosions” finds 556 web locations (#18) where April Gallop is indeed validating the 911Truth that she heard “two explosions” (#19).

Mr. Veale >> What is a resonation signature, how does it manifest itself; what tests are employed to find or measure it; how long does it remain detectable; can you point me to a text that explains it?

The phrase “resonation signature” is my attempt to describe the neurotrauma brain and lung damage imprint created in ‘primary blast-induced injuries’ from the perspectives of “overpressure peaks, characteristics of the shear fronts between overpressure peaks, frequency resonance,” the presence of an “electromagnetic pulse” among other known mechanisms of blast-related injuries (#20). The fact is that “Bombs and explosions can cause unique patterns of injury seldom seen outside combat” (#21) and we can locate ‘that specific pattern signature’ in your Pentagon victims. Resonance is “Oscillation induced in a physical system when it is affected by another system that is itself oscillating at the right frequency” (#22). In this case, the physical system is the human bodily systems and the other system is the bomb blast creating blast waves that oscillate at ‘known’ frequencies. The ‘resonation signature’ is determined by the assimilation of all the related evidence from which the ‘blast source’ can be identified like your fingerprint identifies Bill Veale from a world-full of potential candidates.

Mr. Veale >> Is it your conclusion that L-PILL #2 was set to explode at a critical moment when the necessary NI forces would have convened in the place where they could be targeted by the L-Pill?

Absolutely. Bomblet #2 carried a time-delay fuse for detonation at a specified number of feet from the outer E-ring wall along the 45-degree angle Death Corridor. Voltairenet.org describes the channeling of the shockwave displacement waves here (#23) under “The Missile” section.

Mr. Veale >> When did this bomb explode in relation to the other events you describe, the airplane sightings, etc? Did all of the L-Pills go off at the same 9:31 moment?

The primary missile payload, bomblet #1, bomblet #2 and bomblet #3 detonated in a time-delayed sequence to murder perceived threats (2.3 Trillion Assault, Navy Command Assault, Defense Intelligence Assault = diagram) along the 45-degree angle CL-14 Death Corridor at precisely 9:31:39 about 45 minutes after the start of the WTC attacks. If all four DoD missile payload/bomblets exploded at the same instant, then the Pentagon would show far more damage in the E-ring section and no damage at all at the rear Defense Intelligence Office location. We are looking at a well-planned strategic missile strike where three birds were murdered using one missile stone utilizing 21st Century DoD Missile Technology.

Mr. Veale >> Is the idea of a “painted-up jet” your supposition, as a reasonable explanation of known events, or is there a witness to an event?

Read the May 26, 2005 article from Fort Collins Colorado (#24) saying, “Missile & remote control systems added to small jets before 9/11; same parts found at Pentagon.” Then realize that the DoD was preparing to launch the five military and non-military exercises (story) on the same day that the Pentagon was attacked. The military liaison officer is asking the FAA official, “Is this real world or an exercise” to receive the reply “Not a test” (#33). These exercises included the simulation of airliner hijackings, so these Fort Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport personnel believed their Military Jet retrofitting procedures were part of the legitimate wargame exercises; until the same parts were found at the Pentagon. There are hundreds and even thousands of people involved with these 9/11 inside-job attacks who had no suspicion of their involvement until after all the smoke cleared; and some fail to make the connections even today.

Mr. Veale >> Same question with regard to the jet originating from the war game, and where do you get the idea that it came from the North?

The painted-up DoD Jet definitely entered Pentagon airspace from the north, which we derive from this picture (#25) from Steve Koeppel’s Analysis (#26). The fake NTSB/FBI AA77 Flight Path (link) includes the large loop to the south (#26a), because the inside-job bad guys knew the painted-up DoD Jet would make the 270-degree turn from the north in order to strike the Wedge One location at CL-14 on the 45-degree angle, so the fake Flight Data Recorder (FDR) evidence had to include the same turn and descent. The DoD cannot ever admit that the Pentagon was struck at 9:31 AM, when your client and her son were injured, because their fake FDR evidence places their fantasy AA77 ‘outside’ Pentagon airspace at 9:31 AM.

Mr. Veale >> Isn’t the exit hole too perfectly round to be other than a wall-breaching operation?

This is wall-breaching operation nonsense is nothing more than DoD Counterintelligence Disinformation Stupidity. This picture (#27) shows a garage door located to the south of our newly-created C-ring hole inside the red circle. Your suggestion is that some fictional military crew stepped over dead and dying Navy Command personnel to create even more damage by setting charges ‘inside’ the Navy Command Center to access what? Then they happen to select the very location where all of these other ‘explosion’ events just happen to take place. This little C-ring hole is the only evidence that the fictional AA77 struck the Pentagon, even though we see no signs of where the 60-ton titanium frame or the two 6-ton engines might have exited. No. The third and final DoD bomblet broke through the Wedge 1/Wedge 2 crosswall to detonate against the rear C-ring masonry wall to sever the Defense Intelligence head to keep the 9/11 Inside-job attack under wraps. The nonsense associated with this ridiculous “wall-breaching” claim is easy to recognize once you run through the planted DoD evidence for where the supposed Pentagon victim remains were found (#28). Try to tell me that some military unit interrupted firefighter operations to blast an access hole in the location where the highest concentration of murdered victims appear on this map, when you have a set of double doors at the end of Corridor 5 and two garage doors to our right (#29 labeled 2 and 3). I would like to know where Bill Veale got the silly notion that anyone went around blasting 8 to 10-feet diameter holes in exterior masonry walls for any reason . . .

Mr. Veale >> You seem to suggest that it was damage collateral to L-Pill#3 designed for some other purpose, or was it a specially designed explosion created for more than one purpose?

The DoD detonation of bomblet #3 was specifically designed to murder Defense Intelligence Personnel like the detonation of bomblet #2 was preset to detonate inside the Navy Command Center. The E-ring roof was supposed to collapse at 9:31:39 AM with the original missile strike with the assistance of the retrofitted DoD Jet explosion between CL-11 and CL-15. Therefore, the sequential bomblet blasts were also designed to assist the DoD in developing the Official Cover Story by creating added destruction.

Mr. Veale >> The Bush actions at 9:31 coincide with other events. Do you have a reason why these are not coincidence?

Absolutely. 9/11 Was An Inside Job where George Bush sat and read pet goat stories with elementary school children (pic) for more than a half hour (8:55 AM to 9:31 AM), when the USA was obviously under attack. Bush and Rove had just left Dick Cheney in charge of the five wargames, which represented a large number of variables where something could go wrong. Bush lied by saying that he saw the north tower hit on the way to the classroom, when in reality that footage was released the following day on 9/12 (#30). Your client and her son were injured during the 9:31 Missile Strike that Bush wants you to believe took place at 9:38 AM (ACAAR Page 200) or as late as 9:43 AM (#30a CNN Chronology), but you want to think that his rushing to leave the elementary school during the minute of 9:31 AM is only a coincidence. No. This just happens to be the same time that Cheney is rushed to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (#31), which is also no mere coincidence. The FAA received the report that the Pentagon was struck by the aircraft at 9:32 AM (#32), which means the White House and Secret Service had access to the same intelligence reports; but Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their inside-job cohorts already knew the Pentagon attack would take place about 45 minutes after the WTC attacks started around 8:45 AM . . .

Mr. Veale >> In other words, why did they need to be timed in such a manner; what purpose(s) were served?

Striking the Pentagon first would make no sense at all for our inside-job bad guys, because the intelligence heads would not be present and making plans to launch Navy Jets into any theater. If the bad guys waited more than 45 minutes from the first WTC attack, then Navy Command would have already given the order to launch Navy Jets (never happened); which would blow the cover off this wargame-concealed inside-job attack.

Bill Veale >> What is your source for the debriefing of anyone by Bush?

These “Global Guardian” wargame exercises included “all the US strategic forces, from “Offutt Air Force Base” (#33). The Chronology shows that Bush left Florida with no military escort, so the concept of presidential security amid these 9/11 attacks went right out the window. Bush's answer as to ‘why??’ he flew to two military bases ‘before’ going back to Washington D.C. was “I was trying to get out of harm’s way” (#34). Nonsense. The Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana is called “a further important node within the Global Guardian exercise” (#35).

Bill Veale >> How much of the Military history of 9/11 have you read? Can you get me a copy?

This is the most ridiculous question on the list. Who has a copy of the military history of 9/11? Nobody. What we do have is all the DoD Counterintelligence Disinformation that 3 trillion stolen dollars can buy along with the 911Truth scattered around like Jetliner debris in a real Jetliner crash. Tell me what Bill Veale sees in this Official Gov’t picture (#36). That’s right. All you can see is the empty hole in the empty Shanksville field like in this video clip (#37) and in this picture (#38). How much 9/11 history must one read to recognize an empty hole? You seem to be looking for a good explanation for why I am immune to the Official Cover Story LIES that span all of these related 9/11 Inside-job Attacks. No sir. The information you see on my blog (#39), and in my posts everywhere, represent the result of thousands of hours of dedicated research from running my own 911Truth Investigation without regard to the convoluted rhetoric of Loyal Bushie LIARS working every day to prop up the silly Official Cover Story. My question is: How many inside-job bad guys has Bill Veale brought to 9/11 Justice at the Center For 9/11 Justice? Why are we looking at one lawsuit released to Rawstory.com rather than a dozen lawsuits released to the major News Network Hubs? Cheney may very well be long dead of old age before we ever see movement on this case.

Mr. Veale >> Do you have a list of Pentagon survivors who heard or experienced more than one explosion?

Your question can be taken in many different ways. Remember again that the singular term “explosion” appears only six times in the 911Commission Report for ‘all’ of these related inside-job attacks ‘and’ only six times in the corrupt ACAAR; and every use of the singular term is directly connected to their fantasy 9:38 AM explosion. The fact that about 1000 pages of Official 9/11 Sworn Testimony excludes the plural term “explosions” is the most damning evidence of a DoD/FBI/CIA (John Doe’s) Cover-up Operation than any other piece of evidence related to these attacks, but for some mysterious reason Bill Veale seems to believe this is also a mere coincide. Lisa Burgess (#17) is a good example of a Pentagon survivor hearing the same ‘two booms’ that April also heard, that you now appear willing to conceal to the detriment of her eyewitness credibility. Here is a Fox 5 news report (#40) of a witness that is hearing explosions in the background after 10 AM. The Dick Eastman “Pentagon Explosions at 9:32” story is at link # 41. Dave hears “two booms” at the Pentagon at link #42. This timeline (#43) records ‘two explosions” at 9:45 AM. Killtown lists his reports of two explosions at the Pentagon at link #44. Don Perkal gives his account of ‘two explosions, a few minutes apart’ at link #45.

Lloyd England’s taxi cab was hit by Pole #1 at 9:31:39 AM and he is knocked down 4 minutes and 48 seconds later during the 9:36:27 attack, while he and his partner (from white van) were removing the light pole from his windshield. Terry Cohen ran to the E-ring impact hole to see “Just Smoke” in mere seconds after the 9:31:39 AM attack to then report a ‘Terrible Explosion,’ even though she was frantically running here and there to lose track of the precise time between the two explosions. The difference is that some people heard ‘two booms’ at the 9:31 missile strike and others heard the two booms at 9:31 ‘and’ 9:36 a few minutes later. The reason that we have conflicting reports about multiple ‘booms’ and ‘explosions’ is because actually hearing the sound of two explosions at 9:31 requires the observer to be positioned adjacent to the missile strike rather than uprange or downrange where the waves of the explosion intermingle together. Changing April’s ‘two explosion’ testimony midstream seems a foolish thing to do in light of the fact that we have other 9:31 AM witnesses who also heard two booms.

Mr. Veale >> Thanks for your help.

You are very welcome and thank you for pointing out the weakness in my confusing L-Pill terminology with time-delay bomblets. I am rarely forced to go back and make changes in my thesis papers at this stage of my ongoing 911Truth Investigation, but a real 911Truther must be willing to make changes in his 911Truth testimony anytime new evidence is brought to Light. Please write again if I can be of any service to the cause of bringing these inside-job bad guys to justice.